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One has to see the problem, see what it is
日期:2018-07-13 21:34:49 作者:奥修OSHO 阅读:

One has to see the problem, see what it is

  [A sannyasin has returned, after two years in the West, to spend a month here. She says it was very difficult, and a friend helped her return to Poona. She had many problems and is afraid of the same problems on her return.]

  [一个门徒在西方呆了2年后回来了,来这里呆一个月。她说很不容易一个朋友帮助她回到了浦那。她有很多问题,并担心回来后还会有同样的问题。]

  奥修OSHO:

  The problem has nothing to do with sannyas or with your being here or there. You are the problem, so wherever you are the problem will be there... unless you drop it! 

  问题跟修行,跟你在这里或那里无关。你就是问题,所以你去哪儿问题跟到哪儿……除非你放下它!

  And I am saying not that you have to solve it; you have to drop it. If one starts trying to solve a problem, more problems arise. Now solving it becomes a problem. One has to understand, one has to see the problem, see what it is. In that very seeing the problem is dropped.

  我不是说你必须把问题解决了。你必须放下它。如果一个人开始尝试解决问题,更多的问题会随之而来。现在解决问题成了一个问题。一个人必须明白,他得看清问题,看清它是什么。看清了,问题就放下了。

  For example, my feeling is that your problem is that you have not yet been flowing in love. The reason seems to be that you desire somebody to love you but you don't love, you don't give, or even if you give, you give very miserly. If you don't love you will feel abandoned, you will feel lonely, you will feel helpless.

  比如说,我的感觉是,你的问题是你还未在爱中流淌原因似乎是你渴望有人爱你,但你并不爱,你并不给予,或者即便你给予,你也给的极为吝啬。如果你不爱,你会感觉被遗弃了,你会感到孤独,你会感到无助

  ow [your friend] has helped you; that can become a problem. For example, if you become perfectly okay you will be afraid that you may lose his love. He loved you because you were feeling lonely, depressed, abandoned. Now if you don't feel abandoned, if you are no more lonely, if you are on your own and perfectly healthy, then what will be the point of his love? -- it will be pointless.

  现在你朋友帮了你,那能变成一个问题。比如说,如果你变得很好,你会害怕或许会失去他的爱。他爱过你,因为你当时感到孤独、沮丧、被遗弃。现在如果你不觉得被遗弃,如果你不再孤独,如果你依靠自己健康十足,那他为什么还要爱你——那毫无意义

  o now you will persist in your mood, you will try to keep it because now it will have an investment in it. You will want to remain helpless and you will want to remain feeling abandoned so that his love goes on flowing towards you. This is how dangerous it is; it is very dangerous.

  所以现在你会继续呆在你的情绪里,你会试图挽留它,因为现在它跟你利益相关。你会想保持无助,你会想继续觉得被遗弃,好让他的爱继续流向你。这很危险,危险极了。

  ever ask for sympathy. Never! Once you ask for sympathy you will never be able to love, because then sympathy will not be coming any more. Many women learn that trick; it is one of the most ancient, feminine strategies, to ask for sympathy. 

  永远不要寻求同情,永远不要!一旦你寻求同情,你就永远没办法爱,因为不然别人就不再同情你了。很多女人学会了那个把戏,寻求同情是最古老女性策略之一。

  ooner or later somebody is going to give sympathy and then the fear arises that if all one's problems are solved then this sympathy will disappear. And it will disappear, that too is true, because it is not love; it is sympathy. If it is love it will not disappear, but love cannot go on giving to you continuously unless you respond.

  迟早别人会给你同情,接着恐惧出现,如果你所有问题都解决了,这份同情会随之消失。它会消失,那也是真的,因为它不是爱,它是同情、怜悯。如果它是爱,它就不会消失,但爱不可能一直持续给你,除非你有所回应

  It is good that he loved you; now you love him! Make it a give and take, make it balanced. And to be loved is not such a joy as to love. To be loved is beautiful but there is a higher joy and that is of loving. To get love is good but to give love is far better. When you give and get you don't feel obliged, otherwise obligation becomes heavy, it becomes like a rock.

  他爱过你,这很好,现在你爱他!把它变成施与受,让它平衡。被爱的喜悦比不上爱的喜悦。被爱是美的,但还有更高的喜悦,那就是爱。得到爱是好的,给予爱却好得多。当你给予并得到,你不会觉得受之有愧,否则你的责任会很沉重,它会变得像块重石。

  o my feeling is: you are feeling lonely. Everybody who is not deeply loving will feel lonely. It is only love that will redeem you from your abandonment, it is only love that will redeem you from your loneliness. But remember, when I say love, I mean both give and take. My feeling is: he has given to you but you have not responded so it has created problems on both the sides.'

  所以我的感觉是:你现在感到孤独。每个没有深深在爱的人都感到孤独。只有爱能让你摆脱遗弃,只有爱能让你摆脱孤独。但记住,当我说爱,我指的是施与受。

  For this one month that you are here be loving, be utterly loving. It costs nothing to be loving. Don't hoard it; it is not a thing to be hoarded. It is not money, it is not gold. 

  这一个月,你在这里要去爱,要完全去爱。爱不费分文。别囤积爱,爱不是一件要囤积的东西。它不是钱,它不是黄金

  It is like flowers: if you hoard them they will die and instead of the fragrance there will be just nothing or they will even start stinking because they will become rotten. Love is a flower. While it is there let it be shared, while it is there let the fragrance be released.

  它就像花朵:如果你囤积它们,它们会死掉,本来有花香,但现在会一无所有,活着它们会开始发臭,因为它们会腐烂。爱是一朵花,趁它在的时候分享它,趁它在的时候让花香随风飘散。

  And remember always: you cannot accumulate it. The love that you didn't allow yesterday is no more there. What you are having is just at this moment, in this moment; that belongs to this moment. If you loved yesterday, that love will remain with you; if you did not love yesterday, it is gone. 

  始终记得:你无法囤积爱。昨天你没有允许的爱已经不在了。你现在拥有的只在这一刻,只在这一刻里,那属于这一刻。如果你昨天爱过,那份爱会跟着你,如果你昨天没爱,它就走了。

  This is a paradox: you can have as much love as you give. By giving, you have it. By hoarding it, it is gone down the drain. 

  这就是矛盾:你给予多少就能获得多少。通过给予,你拥有了。通过囤积,它被浪费掉了。

  It is not that a person who has never loved in his last day will have all the love accumulated in him, no. He will be just a dead, hollow person. But when a man who has loved his whole life is dying he will be full of love. This is very paradoxical but this is so.

  一个从没爱过的人,不会在死的那一天拥有他囤积下来的所有的爱,不。他会是个死人、空虚之人。但一个爱过一辈子的人,在死的时候心中会充满爱。这就是矛盾所在,但事实如此。

  o you learn the ways of love, and always remember that whenever somebody shows a gesture of love, respond in a thousandfold way. Don't simply receive it and don't say thank you. The only way to thank is to pour love. Always give more than you get and you will never feel this trouble that you have been feeling.

  所以你学习爱的方式,始终记住,每当有人摆出爱的姿态,用滴水之恩涌泉相报的方式来回应他。别光接受,别说谢谢你。感谢对方唯一的方式是倾洒你的爱。永远给的比你得到多,你一直感受到的这个麻烦永远不会再有。

  Do a few groups while you are here. Have you done any groups before?

  趁着你人在这里,参加一些团体课程。你之前有参加过任何团体课程吗?

  译自:OSHO The Open Door

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